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Yesterday’s GOP debate, boiled down to 45 seconds. Via BuzzFeed

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(Tw for hatred, slurs, bigotry, slut shaming, abusing religion)(warning for made up facts disguised as ‘research’)An open letter to LGBTs and Christians of the world.

stayceerantsandraves:

fuckyeahchoice:

tehgratejt:

Dear world,

I am sixteen years old, and being raised as a Christian. I am indeed sickened by stupidity and stubbornness on BOTH sides of this argument. Read the following with an open heart, and willingness to look up resources to check against what I say. My arguments come from information accessible through “Christian Research Institute,” “Stand to Reason,” and the Bible itself. These are indeed classifiable as highly conservative resources, but all information within those sites is cited, and grounded in historical, scientific, and logical claims, not just “South Baptist Fanaticism,” as many will scream. Ask me personally, if you can’t seem to find the answers yourself.


LesBiTransGays:
You are not entitled to use your “sexuality” as a scapegoat for the way you are treated. You will be refused jobs in churches around America, and you will be expected to use bathrooms that match your biological gender. Everyone will call things “gay,” and they do not care about your butthurt over it. Your “sexuality” is not a born characteristic, it is a choice. All biological evidence points to this. You will be laughed at and insulted by a very large percentage of people, especially if you are still in junior high/high school. Nothing about what you choose to be makes you any better than anyone else. And the state does not have to recognize your marriages, although you are still legally allowed to bind yourselves to one another thusly. Remember also, that it is not just you we are worried about, for God makes it quite clear that liars, thieves, whores, and pagans are just as susceptible to God’s judgement, although we should act like it more often.

“Christians” against homosexuality:
God does indeed make it clear many times throughout the Bible that homosexuality is despicable. We are not, however, entitled to belligerently hate upon people in that lifestyle, because of this fact. Nor are we encouraged to accept this behavior due to it’s destructive nature to society, biology, and the human race. If God so chooses to wipe participants of this behavior from existence, so be it, but that is His business, not yours. Furthermore, our doctrines should not be composed of singular verses, as people on both sides of the battle can twist such small chunks of His message to their wants. Our argument verses should be in context with their chapter, book, testament, and the Bible in entirety. We are called to meet this standard of intelligence. God does indeed call us to a higher purpose, but as we are sinners like every other human being, we are not greater than anyone we would dare confront. Jesus exemplifies this in that he acted as though a servant throughout his life, right down to dying a grisly death on a giant, splintery, crossed stick.

God did not command us to witness with hate, but with love. Jesus did not smite all who were deviated from God’s teaching, but met their needs, and taught them what wisdom God imparted to Him. The Apostles did just the same when they were given the Great Commission, to go and make disciples, and baptize in His name.

I have at least two friends who classify themselves under an abnormal “sexuality”. They are close friends of mine, and I love them dearly. They will attest to this. I am a Christian, and they know this. They know that, although I am filled with sorrow over their life choice, I love and care for them in a way that only Christ permits me to.

When I witness, it is not with the intent of obliterating the gay agenda, but with the intent of seeing them past the pearly gates. Do not condone, do not condemn. Confront, but do so in love, not hate.

I always hated elitism, and I always hated belligerent closed-mindedness.

Christians, display a lot more love when you witness. Christianity is a lot more attractive to people when you know your stuff about it, and act like you’re in Christ. I.e: BE KIND. MEET NEEDS.

LGBTs, don’t be weenies. If you choose to live the way you do, you better have a damn better argument that you can intelligently conduct, than the hot-headed stubbornness that I see all too often. I.e: CALM DOWN. HAVE THAT OPEN MIND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT US NOT HAVING.

Love and thanks,
JT Valles

P.S.: This letter is an amalgamation of information and informed opinions based on Scripture, researched information, and personal study. God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost forgive me if my message does not line up with theirs.

P.P.S: Those who choose to reblog, please do so to spread this message positively. What good does it do you to ridicule some dude from Texas, those of you who don’t know me?

P.P.P.S: Thanks for reading. I love you for doing so, this far. C:

This is fucking disgusting. By ‘researched information’ I’m guessing you mean “I made some shit up”.

I can’t even respond to this. You are using a religion(and fuck whatever hateful god you created for this) to justify your hatred and dressed it up as concern or acceptance or something.

Yuck. 

tehgratejt,

Your original post literally made me shake with rage.  I am going to try to respond to your post calmly and in order, but I cannot promise anything.
You are 16, and that is great.  I remember being a teenager and having my opinion discounted because of my age, and I assure you that is not what I am doing here.  You are well spoken, but in the hands of someone spreading your message, that is dangerous because you use your carefully crafted words to hide hate.  I would like you to accept that as a sixteen year old there is a lot that you have not experienced, that you have not been exposed to, there is a lot that you don’t know.  Depending on where your life takes you maybe you will never experience some of the things necessary to develop the knowledge and compassion you lack; I hope this is not the case.  I do laud you for recognizing that some Christians are in the wrong here, that is probably the only thing we agree on.  It should be noted I am a Christian.  My grandfather was a wonderful, tolerant, loving man, and he was a Presbyterian minister.  I went to Catholic school for ten years, and I have also been involved in various God centered activities through out my life.  So you cannot discount me as some one who is uneducated in where you’re coming from.  Let’s begin.

Sexuality should not be in quotation marks when referring to LGBTQIA (you forgot some letters, and in my book everyone counts) as it is a real thing.  Even if you don’t acknowledge it, it is real and you do not get to minimize it with patronizing punctuation.  You really should not use the term “butt hurt” ever, really, as it can trigger people who have been anally violated, and also, there are much better words, i.e. offended, put out, angry, insulted, et cetera.  Also, I didn’t see you cite any facts, statistics, or quotes in your post, let alone a bibliography for anything; it was pretty much all your opinion.

I think you are using the word scapegoat in the wrong context.  LGBTQIA people are often used as scapegoats for the “ills of society” or for “defiling the sanctity of marriage” but they do not use their sexuality as “scapegoats for the way they are treated.”  They are discriminated against openly and without repercussion in most cases.  That is fact.  Everything that you go on to list is just further proof of how common place it is to discount and oppress a person because of their sexual orientation and preference.  Change sexual orientation to skin color, now insert it in your argument.  “You will have to use bathrooms based on this, you will have be denied jobs based on this, you will be laughed at for this…”  Do you see how closed minded and hateful this is?  Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.  You are just regurgitating hateful rhetoric and expanding it to oppress more people. 
There are many, many studies and testimonies that show sexual orientation/preference is in fact a biological trait.  You didn’t choose to be heterosexual, did you?  There are many species that engage in homosexual behavior, not just human beings.  I would like to also point you to Genesis 1:27 which states, “So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.“  This does not say he created heterosexual man and woman.  Both are in God’s image, and to ascribe one, narrow, human gender and form to God is insulting, He is more than that on infinite levels, something you clearly lack understanding of.  By insulting LGBTQIA people, you are insulting God’s creations, and a little piece of God himself.  Think about the ramifications of that.

You’re basically advocating, and condoning bullying for young children already facing a lot of upheaval in their lives?  It should just be accepted as status quo?  So you think the Civil Rights movement was just a bunch of people “getting butt hurt” over something they should have just accepted.  Your lackadaisical attitude towards others being persecuted is very inhumane, and extremely unchristian of you.  You should be moved to compassion and action of their behalf.  “I tell you, on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak,” Matthew 12:36
“Nothing about what you choose to be makes you any better than anyone else.”  These are your freaking words, yet you speak (write) as though because you CHOOSE to be a Christian and are heterosexual you are better and superior to LGBTQIA people.  Practice what you preach.

Your entire argument about gay marriage is completely misinformed from the point of current laws, the constitution, and the current social climate.  Homosexual couples are not currently allowed to bind themselves legally, except in states where their marriage has been deemed legal, even then they are not recognized on a federal level, which is what deals with immigration and the like.  The government in this country is separated from ALL religions, period.  That is not going to change, and to create legislation to the contrary is unconstitutional and a slap in the face to the founding fathers.  Do some research and stay awake in government class.

Who the hell asked you to worry about them anyways?  What you call worry is actually intrusive meddling.  You are condescending, you are patronizing, and you are down right judgmental, and you border on blasphemous.  You say that it’s not only gays you worry about, then list others that will encounter “God’s judgement,” are you likening your own judgement to God’s?  You place that much importance on your self?  What you call worry is actually hatred and judgement, so let me offer you some verses that you need to study.
”Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned, forgive, and ye shall be forgiven.” Luke 6:37   That one is self explanatory.
“Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.” Matthew 7:5  You can’t judge other people unless you correct your own flaws first, and being human, you will always have flaws (such as judging others and hiding it behind God’s will,) ergo, you can not judge anyone, ever.

You do not love your homosexual friends “in the way that Christ allows you to.”  God’s love, my God at least, loves EVERYONE.  Here are some more quotes for you: 
“For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present or the future, nor any powers, neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” Romans 8:38-39  Nothing, not a single thing stops Christ from loving everyone.  EVERY SINGLE PERSON.
”A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.” John 13:34-35
”Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.” 1 Peter 4:8
Are you seeing the theme here?  Love for everyone conquers everything, it is entire point of Christianity, and many other religions.  Love, compassion, forgiveness, kindness, all these things are the messages you should be taking and spreading if you want to make a positive impact, and over all live a happy life. 

“P.P.S: Those who choose to reblog, please do so to spread this message positively. What good does it do you to ridicule some dude from Texas, those of you who don’t know me?” ~your words.  So you’re basically saying that you know you’re going to get lambasted over this, so please don’t do it?  Tough shit kid.  What good would it do to ridicule you?  I’m actually hoping to educate you and stop your hate mongering.  What good does it do you to be ignorant, and spread your ignorance in the name of religion on the internet?  You put your opinion out there, you have to expect that people will react.  Welcome to the online world.

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(Tw for hatred, slurs, bigotry, slut shaming, abusing religion)(warning for made up facts disguised as ‘research’)An open letter to LGBTs and Christians of the world.

tehgratejt:

Dear world,

I am sixteen years old, and being raised as a Christian. I am indeed sickened by stupidity and stubbornness on BOTH sides of this argument. Read the following with an open heart, and willingness to look up resources to check against what I say. My arguments come from information accessible through “Christian Research Institute,” “Stand to Reason,” and the Bible itself. These are indeed classifiable as highly conservative resources, but all information within those sites is cited, and grounded in historical, scientific, and logical claims, not just “South Baptist Fanaticism,” as many will scream. Ask me personally, if you can’t seem to find the answers yourself.


LesBiTransGays:
You are not entitled to use your “sexuality” as a scapegoat for the way you are treated. You will be refused jobs in churches around America, and you will be expected to use bathrooms that match your biological gender. Everyone will call things “gay,” and they do not care about your butthurt over it. Your “sexuality” is not a born characteristic, it is a choice. All biological evidence points to this. You will be laughed at and insulted by a very large percentage of people, especially if you are still in junior high/high school. Nothing about what you choose to be makes you any better than anyone else. And the state does not have to recognize your marriages, although you are still legally allowed to bind yourselves to one another thusly. Remember also, that it is not just you we are worried about, for God makes it quite clear that liars, thieves, whores, and pagans are just as susceptible to God’s judgement, although we should act like it more often.

“Christians” against homosexuality:
God does indeed make it clear many times throughout the Bible that homosexuality is despicable. We are not, however, entitled to belligerently hate upon people in that lifestyle, because of this fact. Nor are we encouraged to accept this behavior due to it’s destructive nature to society, biology, and the human race. If God so chooses to wipe participants of this behavior from existence, so be it, but that is His business, not yours. Furthermore, our doctrines should not be composed of singular verses, as people on both sides of the battle can twist such small chunks of His message to their wants. Our argument verses should be in context with their chapter, book, testament, and the Bible in entirety. We are called to meet this standard of intelligence. God does indeed call us to a higher purpose, but as we are sinners like every other human being, we are not greater than anyone we would dare confront. Jesus exemplifies this in that he acted as though a servant throughout his life, right down to dying a grisly death on a giant, splintery, crossed stick.

God did not command us to witness with hate, but with love. Jesus did not smite all who were deviated from God’s teaching, but met their needs, and taught them what wisdom God imparted to Him. The Apostles did just the same when they were given the Great Commission, to go and make disciples, and baptize in His name.

I have at least two friends who classify themselves under an abnormal “sexuality”. They are close friends of mine, and I love them dearly. They will attest to this. I am a Christian, and they know this. They know that, although I am filled with sorrow over their life choice, I love and care for them in a way that only Christ permits me to.

When I witness, it is not with the intent of obliterating the gay agenda, but with the intent of seeing them past the pearly gates. Do not condone, do not condemn. Confront, but do so in love, not hate.

I always hated elitism, and I always hated belligerent closed-mindedness.

Christians, display a lot more love when you witness. Christianity is a lot more attractive to people when you know your stuff about it, and act like you’re in Christ. I.e: BE KIND. MEET NEEDS.

LGBTs, don’t be weenies. If you choose to live the way you do, you better have a damn better argument that you can intelligently conduct, than the hot-headed stubbornness that I see all too often. I.e: CALM DOWN. HAVE THAT OPEN MIND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT US NOT HAVING.

Love and thanks,
JT Valles

P.S.: This letter is an amalgamation of information and informed opinions based on Scripture, researched information, and personal study. God, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost forgive me if my message does not line up with theirs.

P.P.S: Those who choose to reblog, please do so to spread this message positively. What good does it do you to ridicule some dude from Texas, those of you who don’t know me?

P.P.P.S: Thanks for reading. I love you for doing so, this far. C:

This is fucking disgusting. By ‘researched information’ I’m guessing you mean “I made some shit up”.

I can’t even respond to this. You are using a religion(and fuck whatever hateful god you created for this) to justify your hatred and dressed it up as concern or acceptance or something.

Yuck. 

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Of all “pro-life” arguments, one of the ones I cannot stand most is the one about “responsibility.”

bigmouthbigideas:

“Well, people should be more responsible. If someone doesn’t want a child, they just shouldn’t have sex.” Oh really? Who are you to tell people what responsibility means? Just as everyone on this planet is different, so are the concepts of responsibility. To one person, responsibility means waiting until marriage to have sex. To another, being responsible means remembering to use birth control. To another individual, acting responsibly means simply making sure to not get pregnant by any means necessary. Everyone has different needs, different wants, and different priorities. No two people are in the same exact situation or have the same exact ideas, so why assume that everyone thinks of responsibility in the same manner? You simply shouldn’t. You should never assert your moral obligations onto someone else because everyone has different expectations and ideals, and in the abortion debate the same logic should be applied. You may be “pro-life” because of your responsibilities just as someone may be “pro-choice” because of theirs. So please, don’t bring responsibility into your argument; that’s as invalid as bringing religion into the abortion debate.

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