I guess I can’t be a feminist.
At least not according to Feminist Apostasy. Neither are any other religious feminists. Feminist Apostasy is just another person who suffers from Western Feminism. Ugh.
Ugh, every time I have to hear :
“I read your [religious texts] probably more than any of [your religion]’s followers”
“Burqas are so oppressive”
They don’t stop and think that maybe we know what’s best for ourselves? Maybe we aren’t primitive lessers that can’t think for themselves? Maybe we’ve found a version of our religion that fits perfectly with our feminism?
Every time I hear I can’t be feminist and Muslim is a time that I want to say “Fuck feminism”. I don’t need to be in association with any feminists who think I can’t be a feminist simply because I’m Muslim. I can’t be bothered by that shit.
There are so many things feminism can teach us all and “You can’t be one because of your religion” is NOT one of them.
I’m so proud that most of my followers are genuinely concerned with equality. That even if they don’t believe in religion, they fight for other’s right to practice their religion. I’m so proud that my followers believe in the real messages feminism can back up.
And also that they’re not racist fucks. :)
Q:I can't understand how a muslim can be pro choice?
I’m sorry I guess you’ve reached your mental capacity and can no longer process further discoveries.
Q:You're a Muslim woman*, correct? If you aren't,could you please point me in the direction of someone who is(I don't know any Muslim women* IRL or I'd ask them), because I would like the opinion ofsomeone who actually has a right to answer my question. Which I should probably get to. My question is, would it be appropriate for me , as a white non-Muslim woman, to complement a Muslim woman on her hijab? Or would this be inappropriate or racist?
Personally, I don’t mind when people compliment the style or patterns on my head covering.
I don’t think there is a universal answer for this, though. Not everyone likes being complimented and some people’s hijab means not wanting any attention brought to their attire at all. (They’ll generally wear all black or all matching solid colors)
I don’t see it as racist though, really. Only if you were to say how ‘exotic’ covering your hair is or were fetishizing it.
Since I obviously can’t speak for anyone other than myself on this issue, though how do my hijabi followers feel about compliments?
Q:hey guess what! we can't help what color we are and how we feel about certain things. giving white feminists shit for caring about feminist issues is crap. that attitude is a bad one.
Not giving anyone shit and it’s not the ‘caring’ part that makes me so critical of you. I’m saying you need to take a step back, evaluate how much of your stance is from a place of privilege and to stop playing hero.
We want your support but we don’t want you to talk over us and we don’t want to hear what our problems are from the perspective of someone who doesn’t understand.
This is again and again becoming a problem in feminism. What about the white feminists? How dare you be critical of white feminists. You can’t help what color you were born but you can help by listening and interrupting or speaking over us. For giving us space to speak and helping create a safe space for us.
We deserve respect. And western feminists are not giving it to us when they say things like this and post pictures and ignorant posts like those.
Thanks everyone for bearing with me during all this bs.
Q:But how do you feel knowing that the burka isn't a choice for many women. That clothing isn't just religious choice. In places like egypt, women wear coverings to protect themselves from rape. There are countless stories, mine, and many others, of western women going to egypt, and even in long skirts and hair covered, the men on the streets will have their hands out open to grope and assault you. This isn't an issue that should go ignored because people fear of offending someone talking about it
White. Fucking. Feminists. We do not need you to be our white saviors. We fucking know it’s not right when someone is forced to do anything. But we don’t need your ignorant ass opinion on our oppression. Please stop trying to help, you’re not.
I do believe that if you wear clothes that do not buy into that beauty myth, that you’re making a feminist statement. To stand and say “I don’t want you to see me” is quite a rebellious act. In some Sufi mystical traditions, for both men and women*, one of the rituals is to wrap yourself in a loose flowing garment when you pray over and above your normal clothes. This is seen as a part of the ritual of prayer. I really like that. I love the sense of quiet separateness. The creation of a sacred space. Hijab is a bit like that. It is your portable private space. It’s like wearing your portable privacy. Even if various preachers give the hijab a meaning, it’s not my meaning. That’s not my veil.
-Rachael Woodlock, Speaking in “People Like Us”
Don’t let anyone else tell you what you should feel.
Q:I get the impression that you automatically assume I'm not Muslim/not religious, for whatever reason. Feminism doesn't exist in a vacuum, and pretending it does wont make it so. All imagery is attached to history and meaning, it's just a fact to admit to oneself, and know the details of, even (if not especially) within one's own culture. Ignorance - or coming off as you are, 'fuck you's, and shutting out the history of things just because you like them doesn't gain anyone anything.
The only thing I automatically assumed was that you were an asshole and it’s because you tried to tell me why I’m oppressed instead of letting me have my own opinion on what is oppressing me.